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We are a group for former, deconverted, currently leaving, or doubting Christians. We're here to support former Christians who may feel alone, isolated, disconnected, etc, from their previous religious communities and might not have the same equivalent communal support to turn to in a time of transition and potential difficulty, or simply for those who want to meet others who rejected their faith.
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DiscoveryListened to a great story today. It was about Christof Koch, a Catholic-raised scientist, struggling with his religious beliefs while working the late great Francis Crick. In his own words, he recounts his difficulties reconciling his spiritual church beliefs (or his Sunday beliefs, as he called them) with his scientific work (the rest-of-the-week beliefs). And he also talks fondly of his mentor, Francis Crick, a titan of intellect with heroic courage, especially during his last days fighting cancer. What gripped Christof was how Crick never let his fear of death and the unknown interfere with his reason as scientist, and his amazing ability to come to grips with the inevitable without the need for the supernatural. Or, as Christof put it, "It's like leaving forever the comfort of your childhood home, suffused with the warm glows and fond memories. But I do believe we all have to grow up. It's difficult for many; it's unbearable to the few, but we have to see the world aDiscovery by PyrrhusiVictoria
A less significant second de-conversion storyNot every ex-christian can claim to have two de-conversion stories, but after recent events, it does appear that I do. I already talked about how I left the AoG church and the sort of brainwashing they did with me, but I haven't talked much about my experiences in the Mormon church, since I suppose I didn't feel it was that much of an important impact on my life. Alas, after recent events that does appear to be the case.A less significant second de-conversion story by MauEvig
Now I will state that I myself have no ill will against Mormons, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints or anything like that. I may have friends on here who are Mormons, and that's perfectly fine. I respect your beliefs, just as I will respect any Christian's, Satanist's, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, and of course Atheist's beliefs. I just want to make that clear because a lot of Members of the Church have an idea that we're out to get them or whatever. This is not the case.
During a time when I was going in and out of Faith, I'd suffered a br
'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?!Sometimes I get the argument, "Hopefully you will grow out of this phase and if you wanted to actually help this world you wouldn't do it by attaching to a dead backwards movement."'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?! by ComradeSch
Well, let's go back into MY childhood, as these reactionary puppets would think I've done.
-When I was three years old, I distinctly remember hearing about the core of the Earth being hot, and commenting, "So that's where Hell is?"
Yes, I was raised Seventh-Day Adventist. I became an atheist over time, and the initial exposure to atheism came from my father, when I was nine.
-I also distinctly remember thinking that Heaven in the clouds, too high for humans to find.
When I was nine, I took a flight from my island to Ft. St. John. And that showed me the upside of the clouds. I didn't see angels and shit there!
-I also remember distinctly saying that dictatorship would be a good option compared with the current system when I was ten. I REMEMBER BEING A FAR-RIGHTIST. What was my rationale for
Alienation From Family My mother has become more religious as I have become less. She is aware of this and this has led to a growing divide between us. In several of our discussions she has stated that she wishes I wasn't so smart. This from a woman who encouraged me to read and assured me that studying and learning would lead to success and happiness in life. Needless to say it was a slap to the face to me. Perhaps the worst thing is that we have grown so far apart that she didn't even realize how what she said would affect me. Have any of you had similar experiences? Your experiences need not be about growing religious differences. Did differing political beliefs alienate you from members of your family? The lifestyle you have chosen to live?Alienation From Family by OpinionsProfile
I'm an atheistI came to the conclusion that I don't believe in God about a week ago. My mom grew up going to the Nazarine church and my dad grew up Catholic; however, the way my siblings and I were raised, we never really went to church or anything (either because of my mom's back issues and not being able to sit down for long periods of time, or the conflict between my mom and dad's views, or both), and we never really had very many in-depth discussions about religion. We were just given Bibles and told about how much God loves us and how it's wrong to sin and all that jazz. The point is... religion was very alien to me. There were a lot of things I didn't understand, and I'd noticed that in recent years, my own personal beliefs had been leaning more towards those of Unitarian Universalism, but I didn't know how similar or dissimilar those views were to those of my parents, because, like I said, we'd never really taI'm an atheist by RUNNINGWITHSCISSORS1
Links/Commentary - SCA Morning Read, July Week 3(For more on the SCA and news of a secular concern, go here - SCA Morning Read Archives)Links/Commentary - SCA Morning Read, July Week 3 by CorSecAgent
Hard to say what I'm feeling right now. I haven't been sleeping real well lately so that's been an issue, and I've been trying to modify this chair I use for my computer to be less stressful on my back but it just doesn't seem to want to cooperate...
Today's Links -
PATHEOS: This Church Teaches Evolution Classes Over the Summer, and Creationist Ken Ham is Furious
That's right, Ken. Critical thinking is dangerous, but only to your brand of Fundie bullshit.
NPR: Science Vs. Religion: Beyond The Western Traditions
We often get hung up on the particulars of
Common Sense Obituary.Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:Common Sense Obituary. by CorSecAgent
- Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
- Why the early bird gets the worm;
- Life isn't always fair;
- And maybe it was my fault.
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).
His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselve
Skirting the Law pt.2: Call Someone a MinisterSkirting the Law pt.2: Call Someone a Minister by PyrrhusiVictoria
In today's edition of the Vaticanization of the United States, a.k.a. How to Legally Break the Law by Being Religious, I'm going to highlight a new fight that's currently happening in California. KPCC (a Southern California Public Radio affiliate) ran a story today about the Catholic church's new controversial issue, where they are requiring employees of non-church entities (in this case schools and hospitals) to sign contracts with "Moral Clauses".
The moral clauses basically state that the employee must adhere to Catholic teachings, not only at the workplace, but also in their private lives. This would, for example, bar teachers from using contraception, or bar a gay teacher from getting married in state where same-sex marriage is legal. And no, these examples are not some far-reaching hypothetical. The sample teacher's contract actually spelled this out.
Now, let me pause for a moment so we can reflect on the employer-employee rela