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We are a group for former, deconverted, currently leaving, or doubting Christians. We're here to support former Christians who may feel alone, isolated, disconnected, etc, from their previous religious communities and might not have the same equivalent communal support to turn to in a time of transition and potential difficulty, or simply for those who want to meet others who rejected their faith.
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I No Longer Believe...What do you man you no longer believe?I No Longer Believe... by LordSaintFire
You’ve heard the devils lies! He has you deceived!
Don’t you God revealed himself plainly in things that are seen?
Perhaps you gave those filthy atheists a listen,
Like Christopher Dawkins or Sagan or Hitchens!
I’ll bet it’s because of some mischief you’re in!
You pretend not to believe becase you want to sin!
I see through this ruse that you’re trying to paint!
With no belief in God, men cast off restraint!
So why do you hate God? At least tell me this!
How can you hate someone who doesn’t exist?
How I pity you, and the confusion your feeling!
If no God exists, then life has no meaning!
How can you say we evolved from a zoo?
From apes or from amoebas, from a pile of goo?
A fool says in his heart there is no God,
And you know he exists
Atheism makes you into a nihilist!
You know that it’s true! It makes perfect sense...
Wait? What’s that? You want evidence?
Who needs such a thing? The just live
Some People Can't Take a Joke. Seriously, calm the fuck down!Some People Can't Take a Joke. by SeaSerpentine
DiscoveryListened to a great story today. It was about Christof Koch, a Catholic-raised scientist, struggling with his religious beliefs while working the late great Francis Crick. In his own words, he recounts his difficulties reconciling his spiritual church beliefs (or his Sunday beliefs, as he called them) with his scientific work (the rest-of-the-week beliefs). And he also talks fondly of his mentor, Francis Crick, a titan of intellect with heroic courage, especially during his last days fighting cancer. What gripped Christof was how Crick never let his fear of death and the unknown interfere with his reason as scientist, and his amazing ability to come to grips with the inevitable without the need for the supernatural. Or, as Christof put it, "It's like leaving forever the comfort of your childhood home, suffused with the warm glows and fond memories. But I do believe we all have to grow up. It's difficult for many; it's unbearable to the few, but we have to see the world aDiscovery by PyrrhusiVictoria
A less significant second de-conversion storyNot every ex-christian can claim to have two de-conversion stories, but after recent events, it does appear that I do. I already talked about how I left the AoG church and the sort of brainwashing they did with me, but I haven't talked much about my experiences in the Mormon church, since I suppose I didn't feel it was that much of an important impact on my life. Alas, after recent events that does appear to be the case.A less significant second de-conversion story by MauEvig
Now I will state that I myself have no ill will against Mormons, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints or anything like that. I may have friends on here who are Mormons, and that's perfectly fine. I respect your beliefs, just as I will respect any Christian's, Satanist's, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, and of course Atheist's beliefs. I just want to make that clear because a lot of Members of the Church have an idea that we're out to get them or whatever. This is not the case.
During a time when I was going in and out of Faith, I'd suffered a br
'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?!Sometimes I get the argument, "Hopefully you will grow out of this phase and if you wanted to actually help this world you wouldn't do it by attaching to a dead backwards movement."'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?! by ComradeSch
Well, let's go back into MY childhood, as these reactionary puppets would think I've done.
-When I was three years old, I distinctly remember hearing about the core of the Earth being hot, and commenting, "So that's where Hell is?"
Yes, I was raised Seventh-Day Adventist. I became an atheist over time, and the initial exposure to atheism came from my father, when I was nine.
-I also distinctly remember thinking that Heaven in the clouds, too high for humans to find.
When I was nine, I took a flight from my island to Ft. St. John. And that showed me the upside of the clouds. I didn't see angels and shit there!
-I also remember distinctly saying that dictatorship would be a good option compared with the current system when I was ten. I REMEMBER BEING A FAR-RIGHTIST. What was my rationale for
Alienation From Family My mother has become more religious as I have become less. She is aware of this and this has led to a growing divide between us. In several of our discussions she has stated that she wishes I wasn't so smart. This from a woman who encouraged me to read and assured me that studying and learning would lead to success and happiness in life. Needless to say it was a slap to the face to me. Perhaps the worst thing is that we have grown so far apart that she didn't even realize how what she said would affect me. Have any of you had similar experiences? Your experiences need not be about growing religious differences. Did differing political beliefs alienate you from members of your family? The lifestyle you have chosen to live?Alienation From Family by OpinionsProfile
Why Atheism Instead of Agnosticism?Normally, I don't care much about labels, but sometimes you have to put a stake in the ground. People make a big deal about atheism vs. just being agnostic, mostly on the supposition that atheism is rather hard and militant, absolutely certain that there are no gods, while being agnostic is technically more correct, since science can't absolutely disprove the existence of some god. While a lot of people do in fact fall into that reasoning, it is slightly flawed, at least in my case.Why Atheism Instead of Agnosticism? by PyrrhusiVictoria
For starters, I'm not militant at all, and I never claim science disproves all gods. Freedom is a right and free inquiry a virtue. Even in a purely secular world, there is little more that is sacred than freedom of thought. Therefore, people are free to believe whatever they want. Much of the universe is counter-intuitive, so the freedom to believe in strange things is precisely what fuels science. At the same time, it's important to note that believing strange things are po
Accusations Aginst ApostatesRecently, I wrote a poem entitled “I No Longer Believe”, which basically sums up all of the likely accusation one might make to an individual who reveals he/she is no longer a believer in the Christian faith. The poem is filled mostly with references to Bible verses, which Christians often apply to individuals who are defined as “Atheists”, or - more specifically - Those who have no positive beliefs and lack conviction in the existence of any spiritual or meta-physical person/concept/place, etc.Accusations Aginst Apostates by LordSaintFire
So what exactly are these accusations that Christians might make towards apostates (those who abandon an organized religion and no longer believe in it’s doctrines)? Well, before I get into the “what”. I think that it’s fair to address the “why” element first.
Most religious people believe that their scriptures are infallible; containing no errors, contradictions, and are demonstrably true. In addition, these people also believe that t
Links/Commentary - SCA Morning Read - Sept. Week 3(For more on the SCA and news of a secular concern, go here - SCA Morning Read Archives)Links/Commentary - SCA Morning Read - Sept. Week 3 by CorSecAgent
I would like to start off this latest update with a little ranting about the state of the modern world. These links I'm about to present were not culled from any SCA Morning Read, but rather, were random links I found that were deemed too important to leave to the usual 'additional links' section of this update.
First, thanks to a fellow deviant, I had the misfortune of coming across this site -
Return of Kings
- which appears to be a bastion to/monument for the foul stench that is virulent misogyny. I read a couple of the articles and found that it turned my stomach, at which point I began to wonder if it might not be a really elaborate Poe (see "Poe's Law" if you don't get that reference) aimed at satirizing misogyny as a whole. However, I have confirmation that it is, indeed,
Everything wrong with the USAEverything wrong with the USA: A Wry Look At An Old MythEverything wrong with the USA by ComradeSch
“The USA is the best country in the world!”
No, actually, it is not the #1 country in the world… Unless you count defence spending, incarcerated persons per capita, and Christian fundamentalists.
According to US Economy, a division of About.com that deals with economic news related to the US Economy:
“The U.S. military budget is $756.4 billion for FY 2015. Military spending is greater than Medicare ($529 billion), Medicaid ($331 billion), or the interest payment on the debt ($251). It's also more than the three next largest departments combined: Health and Human Services ($73.1 billion), Education ($68.6 billion) and Housing and Urban Development ($32.6 billion).”
(http://useconomy.about.com/od/usfederalbudget/p/military_budget.htm, ÙS Military Budget)
To put that into further perspective, The Russian government's published 2014 military budget is abo