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We are a group for former, deconverted, currently leaving, or doubting Christians. We're here to support former Christians who may feel alone, isolated, disconnected, etc, from their previous religious communities and might not have the same equivalent communal support to turn to in a time of transition and potential difficulty, or simply for those who want to meet others who rejected their faith.
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I No Longer Believe...What do you man you no longer believe?I No Longer Believe... by LordSaintFire
You’ve heard the devils lies! He has you deceived!
Don’t you God revealed himself plainly in things that are seen?
Perhaps you gave those filthy atheists a listen,
Like Christopher Dawkins or Sagan or Hitchens!
I’ll bet it’s because of some mischief you’re in!
You pretend not to believe becase you want to sin!
I see through this ruse that you’re trying to paint!
With no belief in God, men cast off restraint!
So why do you hate God? At least tell me this!
How can you hate someone who doesn’t exist?
How I pity you, and the confusion your feeling!
If no God exists, then life has no meaning!
How can you say we evolved from a zoo?
From apes or from amoebas, from a pile of goo?
A fool says in his heart there is no God,
And you know he exists
Atheism makes you into a nihilist!
You know that it’s true! It makes perfect sense...
Wait? What’s that? You want evidence?
Who needs such a thing? The just live
DiscoveryListened to a great story today. It was about Christof Koch, a Catholic-raised scientist, struggling with his religious beliefs while working the late great Francis Crick. In his own words, he recounts his difficulties reconciling his spiritual church beliefs (or his Sunday beliefs, as he called them) with his scientific work (the rest-of-the-week beliefs). And he also talks fondly of his mentor, Francis Crick, a titan of intellect with heroic courage, especially during his last days fighting cancer. What gripped Christof was how Crick never let his fear of death and the unknown interfere with his reason as scientist, and his amazing ability to come to grips with the inevitable without the need for the supernatural. Or, as Christof put it, "It's like leaving forever the comfort of your childhood home, suffused with the warm glows and fond memories. But I do believe we all have to grow up. It's difficult for many; it's unbearable to the few, but we have to see the world aDiscovery by PyrrhusiVictoria
A less significant second de-conversion storyNot every ex-christian can claim to have two de-conversion stories, but after recent events, it does appear that I do. I already talked about how I left the AoG church and the sort of brainwashing they did with me, but I haven't talked much about my experiences in the Mormon church, since I suppose I didn't feel it was that much of an important impact on my life. Alas, after recent events that does appear to be the case.A less significant second de-conversion story by MauEvig
Now I will state that I myself have no ill will against Mormons, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints or anything like that. I may have friends on here who are Mormons, and that's perfectly fine. I respect your beliefs, just as I will respect any Christian's, Satanist's, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, and of course Atheist's beliefs. I just want to make that clear because a lot of Members of the Church have an idea that we're out to get them or whatever. This is not the case.
During a time when I was going in and out of Faith, I'd suffered a br
'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?!Sometimes I get the argument, "Hopefully you will grow out of this phase and if you wanted to actually help this world you wouldn't do it by attaching to a dead backwards movement."'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?! by ComradeSch
Well, let's go back into MY childhood, as these reactionary puppets would think I've done.
-When I was three years old, I distinctly remember hearing about the core of the Earth being hot, and commenting, "So that's where Hell is?"
Yes, I was raised Seventh-Day Adventist. I became an atheist over time, and the initial exposure to atheism came from my father, when I was nine.
-I also distinctly remember thinking that Heaven in the clouds, too high for humans to find.
When I was nine, I took a flight from my island to Ft. St. John. And that showed me the upside of the clouds. I didn't see angels and shit there!
-I also remember distinctly saying that dictatorship would be a good option compared with the current system when I was ten. I REMEMBER BEING A FAR-RIGHTIST. What was my rationale for
Alienation From Family My mother has become more religious as I have become less. She is aware of this and this has led to a growing divide between us. In several of our discussions she has stated that she wishes I wasn't so smart. This from a woman who encouraged me to read and assured me that studying and learning would lead to success and happiness in life. Needless to say it was a slap to the face to me. Perhaps the worst thing is that we have grown so far apart that she didn't even realize how what she said would affect me. Have any of you had similar experiences? Your experiences need not be about growing religious differences. Did differing political beliefs alienate you from members of your family? The lifestyle you have chosen to live?Alienation From Family by OpinionsProfile
Anything But Islam...Aesop — 'It is easy to be brave at a safe distanceAnything But Islam... by LordSaintFire
It’s fair to say that many of the individuals who criticize or scrutinize Christianity, other religions, and even sexism seem to be suffering from lockjaw when it comes to Islam. For example, on the show Penn and Teller: Bullshit! The comedy duo did an episode entitled “The Bible: Fact or Fiction?”. In this episode – aired May 6, 2004 – Penn and Teller debunk the Bible's claims, with some help from Biblical experts. The episode, like the rest of the show, was well received, but no one could ever expect the pair to scrutinize the so-called “Religion of Peace”, and they even admitted to it themselves:
Are there any groups you won’t go after? We haven’t tackled Scientology because Showtime doesn’t want us to. Maybe they have deals with individual Scientologists—I’m not sure. And we haven’t tackled Islam bec
Close Encounters of the Religious Kind...You think you have it all worked out, you think you have your faculties in check, you think you have your emotional responses under control...and then something pops up to blow the lid on that whole damned affair...Close Encounters of the Religious Kind... by CorSecAgent
To begin, I maintain a collection of books and media for two separate organizations here in central Iowa - 'Iowa Atheists and Freethinkers' and 'Humanists of Iowa', sister organizations affiliated in common secular cause. As such, it is fitting for me to have a modest understanding of the works I curate so that I can more accurately represent them to the communities I serve.
One of the means I'm currently employing to facilitate this better awareness is the use of book discussions held by both groups. Currently there is a Humanist book club, just begun, meeting twice a month, which is reading 'The Righteous Mind' by Jonathan Haidt. And just recently there was an aborted attempt to have a book discussion on 'The End of Faith' by Sam Harris on the IAF side.
Then, of course, t
Religious Fundamentalism: Anti-IntellectualismIn the past, I wrote about religious censorship and the indoctrination of children, but now I hope to blend these two topics together to talk about a more endearing problem that I regularly see in the [religious] Fundamentalist community, and that’s the problem with anti-intellectualism. This isn’t to challenge the dogmas of the various religious beliefs (despite the fact that their claims being false are rather self-evident), but this is intended to discuss the attempt of religious Fundamentalists to censor the learning atmosphere of youth in public education, as well as pointing out the folly of promoting anti-intellectualism in the first place.Religious Fundamentalism: Anti-Intellectualism by LordSaintFire
This is truly the backbone of Fundamentalism; In regards to religious attitudes, Fundamentalism can be described as a late 19th and early 20th century movement which was mostly defined by a literal interpretation of the Bible’s dogma, thus advocating Biblical inerrancy. In other words, if the Bible says A, and reality (evide
No More (The Moment)I can't atone forNo More (The Moment) by Xeperpharos
False virtues I fought alone for.
I can't make sense of anything.
My past, a sculpture;
Synthetic chiseled vulture,
Time-captured silent beak to sing.
find the light of day
Your right of way
Pave the path to prey
Fear and disarray;
I can't condone this,
Alone I'd stand to stone this,
My past of skinning off the sin.
Undone I've taken,
Unraveled flesh forsaken,
This world was once worth living in.
find the light of day
Your right of way
Pave the path to prey
Fear and disarray;
I'd find a failure,