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We are a group for former, deconverted, currently leaving, or doubting Christians. We're here to support former Christians who may feel alone, isolated, disconnected, etc, from their previous religious communities and might not have the same equivalent communal support to turn to in a time of transition and potential difficulty, or simply for those who want to meet others who rejected their faith.
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DiscoveryListened to a great story today. It was about Christof Koch, a Catholic-raised scientist, struggling with his religious beliefs while working the late great Francis Crick. In his own words, he recounts his difficulties reconciling his spiritual church beliefs (or his Sunday beliefs, as he called them) with his scientific work (the rest-of-the-week beliefs). And he also talks fondly of his mentor, Francis Crick, a titan of intellect with heroic courage, especially during his last days fighting cancer. What gripped Christof was how Crick never let his fear of death and the unknown interfere with his reason as scientist, and his amazing ability to come to grips with the inevitable without the need for the supernatural. Or, as Christof put it, "It's like leaving forever the comfort of your childhood home, suffused with the warm glows and fond memories. But I do believe we all have to grow up. It's difficult for many; it's unbearable to the few, but we have to see the world aDiscovery by PyrrhusiVictoria
A less significant second de-conversion storyNot every ex-christian can claim to have two de-conversion stories, but after recent events, it does appear that I do. I already talked about how I left the AoG church and the sort of brainwashing they did with me, but I haven't talked much about my experiences in the Mormon church, since I suppose I didn't feel it was that much of an important impact on my life. Alas, after recent events that does appear to be the case.A less significant second de-conversion story by MauEvig
Now I will state that I myself have no ill will against Mormons, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints or anything like that. I may have friends on here who are Mormons, and that's perfectly fine. I respect your beliefs, just as I will respect any Christian's, Satanist's, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, and of course Atheist's beliefs. I just want to make that clear because a lot of Members of the Church have an idea that we're out to get them or whatever. This is not the case.
During a time when I was going in and out of Faith, I'd suffered a br
'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?!Sometimes I get the argument, "Hopefully you will grow out of this phase and if you wanted to actually help this world you wouldn't do it by attaching to a dead backwards movement."'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?! by ComradeSch
Well, let's go back into MY childhood, as these reactionary puppets would think I've done.
-When I was three years old, I distinctly remember hearing about the core of the Earth being hot, and commenting, "So that's where Hell is?"
Yes, I was raised Seventh-Day Adventist. I became an atheist over time, and the initial exposure to atheism came from my father, when I was nine.
-I also distinctly remember thinking that Heaven in the clouds, too high for humans to find.
When I was nine, I took a flight from my island to Ft. St. John. And that showed me the upside of the clouds. I didn't see angels and shit there!
-I also remember distinctly saying that dictatorship would be a good option compared with the current system when I was ten. I REMEMBER BEING A FAR-RIGHTIST. What was my rationale for
Alienation From Family My mother has become more religious as I have become less. She is aware of this and this has led to a growing divide between us. In several of our discussions she has stated that she wishes I wasn't so smart. This from a woman who encouraged me to read and assured me that studying and learning would lead to success and happiness in life. Needless to say it was a slap to the face to me. Perhaps the worst thing is that we have grown so far apart that she didn't even realize how what she said would affect me. Have any of you had similar experiences? Your experiences need not be about growing religious differences. Did differing political beliefs alienate you from members of your family? The lifestyle you have chosen to live?Alienation From Family by OpinionsProfile
An Ode to the Epoch of Reason.A wise man is never one to condemn,An Ode to the Epoch of Reason. by CorSecAgent
only to criticize that which fails to impress,
fails to bear the burden of rational inquiry.
Yet here you stand, oh thou pious believer,
holy toilet paper in hand, ready to take
a dogma-laden dump all over reason.
Science may not be able to explain it all
but you're certainly not justified saying
you're right and we are completely wrong.
If a ball bounces from hand to ground and
back, gravity has been indirectly observed.
A fact of science has been demonstrated.
If your god, oh thou pious religionist, is
real and manifests in this thing we call
reality, it should be as evident as gravity.
You should be able to make a simple, nay
innocuous, gesture and prove, without a
flicker of doubt, the reality of your god.
The veracity of your beliefs, in your mind,
is contingent upon your unwavering faith
and devotion to certain supernatural truths.
Tremble, oh thou pious hypocrite, tremble
before evidence and know that no amount
of wishing for truth will ever r
ConvictionI want to talk about the idea of “conviction” in some fundamentalist Christian circles. Particularly I want to talk about how it is used by some Christians both as a gas-lighting technique and as a method of manipulation. However, I have not really had time or the ability to put my thoughts together in a coherent fashion. So instead, I think I will just tell a couple of stories. These stories occurred while I lived as a woman, so I am using those pronouns and terms since they are relevant to the stories.Conviction by EternalGeekExposed
Note: for those unaware of this particular Christianese phrase, I am referring to the following definition: a feeling of guilt or shame that God inflicts on a person that comes with the recognition of having committed a sin.
When I was outed as gay to my family, I was living overseas and working on my Masters degree in Astrophysics. Needless to say, I was already under a lot of stress, even before dealing with my family keeping me up ti