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We are a group for former, deconverted, currently leaving, or doubting Christians. We're here to support former Christians who may feel alone, isolated, disconnected, etc, from their previous religious communities and might not have the same equivalent communal support to turn to in a time of transition and potential difficulty, or simply for those who want to meet others who rejected their faith.
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DiscoveryListened to a great story today. It was about Christof Koch, a Catholic-raised scientist, struggling with his religious beliefs while working the late great Francis Crick. In his own words, he recounts his difficulties reconciling his spiritual church beliefs (or his Sunday beliefs, as he called them) with his scientific work (the rest-of-the-week beliefs). And he also talks fondly of his mentor, Francis Crick, a titan of intellect with heroic courage, especially during his last days fighting cancer. What gripped Christof was how Crick never let his fear of death and the unknown interfere with his reason as scientist, and his amazing ability to come to grips with the inevitable without the need for the supernatural. Or, as Christof put it, "It's like leaving forever the comfort of your childhood home, suffused with the warm glows and fond memories. But I do believe we all have to grow up. It's difficult for many; it's unbearable to the few, but we have to see the world aDiscovery by PyrrhusiVictoria
A less significant second de-conversion storyNot every ex-christian can claim to have two de-conversion stories, but after recent events, it does appear that I do. I already talked about how I left the AoG church and the sort of brainwashing they did with me, but I haven't talked much about my experiences in the Mormon church, since I suppose I didn't feel it was that much of an important impact on my life. Alas, after recent events that does appear to be the case.A less significant second de-conversion story by MauEvig
Now I will state that I myself have no ill will against Mormons, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints or anything like that. I may have friends on here who are Mormons, and that's perfectly fine. I respect your beliefs, just as I will respect any Christian's, Satanist's, Jewish, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, and of course Atheist's beliefs. I just want to make that clear because a lot of Members of the Church have an idea that we're out to get them or whatever. This is not the case.
During a time when I was going in and out of Faith, I'd suffered a br
'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?!Sometimes I get the argument, "Hopefully you will grow out of this phase and if you wanted to actually help this world you wouldn't do it by attaching to a dead backwards movement."'Hopefully one day you snap out of this phase'?! by ComradeSch
Well, let's go back into MY childhood, as these reactionary puppets would think I've done.
-When I was three years old, I distinctly remember hearing about the core of the Earth being hot, and commenting, "So that's where Hell is?"
Yes, I was raised Seventh-Day Adventist. I became an atheist over time, and the initial exposure to atheism came from my father, when I was nine.
-I also distinctly remember thinking that Heaven in the clouds, too high for humans to find.
When I was nine, I took a flight from my island to Ft. St. John. And that showed me the upside of the clouds. I didn't see angels and shit there!
-I also remember distinctly saying that dictatorship would be a good option compared with the current system when I was ten. I REMEMBER BEING A FAR-RIGHTIST. What was my rationale for
Alienation From Family My mother has become more religious as I have become less. She is aware of this and this has led to a growing divide between us. In several of our discussions she has stated that she wishes I wasn't so smart. This from a woman who encouraged me to read and assured me that studying and learning would lead to success and happiness in life. Needless to say it was a slap to the face to me. Perhaps the worst thing is that we have grown so far apart that she didn't even realize how what she said would affect me. Have any of you had similar experiences? Your experiences need not be about growing religious differences. Did differing political beliefs alienate you from members of your family? The lifestyle you have chosen to live?Alienation From Family by OpinionsProfile
Justice =/= VengeanceWhile contemplating the aftermath of yet another "botched execution", I was saddened that as a society we still haven't learned basic civics. As soon as some people criticized how it took two painful hours to execute the condemned, you had a plethora of others jump in to basically say, "Hey, don't forget that this asshole murdered people. He got what was coming, and I'm only sorry it didn't hurt more." Like anyone doesn't realize that this is a horrible human being who committed horrible crimes... I mean, he is on death row. Nobody's stupid enough to believe he didn't commit an atrocious crime and doesn't deserve to be punished.Justice =/= Vengeance by PyrrhusiVictoria
Let me back up and explain: back in the ancient codes of law, it was common to see what Rome referred to as Lex Talionis. That is to say, retribution authorized or prescribed by law. The Hammurabi, one of the oldest written codes of law known to man, had many examples of this: If you wreck a man's house, the guard would come to your house and wreck it equally.
For First-Timers: A Bible Reading ChecklistBible Reading ChecklistFor First-Timers: A Bible Reading Checklist by CorSecAgent
Genesis - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50
Exodus - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40
Leviticus - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
Numbers - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36
Deuteronomy - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34
Joshua - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
Judges - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
Ruth - 1 2 3 4
1 Samuel - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31
2 Samuel - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
1 Kings -
Links/Commentary - SCA Morning Read, July Week 4(For more on the SCA and news of a secular concern, go here - SCA Morning Read Archives)Links/Commentary - SCA Morning Read, July Week 4 by CorSecAgent
My apologies for being a few days late on this one. I just haven't had my head in the game as well as I would like. Did manage to get my laundry done and folded properly for a change though...and I'm trying to keep the lawn mowed with a push/rotor mower but my arms just aren't in the game. I suppose if I do a little section each day that it will work but that's a big if at this point...
Today's Links -
Obama's LGBT order re-ignites religious liberty debate
Quote - "But conservative columnist Todd Starnes, writing in Fox News, says the whole point of the order is to bully religious groups. "This administration believes gay rights trump everyone else's rights — including religious rights.""
Family"You're brilliant."Family by SherlockImSoHisDateH
"You're smile is grand."
"You look great."
It's all lies.
I'm none of those things.
I'm a mutt.
A lost dog without known heritage
looking for acceptance from it's "family"
The process is long.
It's a bitter, cold war that no one wins
And that acceptance is never going to be there
Because I'm not good enough.
I can't reach those standards set for me.
"You aren't pansexual,
don't tell anyone that."
"You aren't an atheist,
You just haven't found God, yet."
"You aren't anyone's friend,
You haven't been fixed.."
"You aren't accept,
You aren't good enough, yet."
When will families just accept their children?
No parent hears the cries,
No parent wants to accept these things,
No parent wants a failure of child.
Yet, I'm here.
Lie after lie after lie is told.
Mother treats me like I'm a roach,
Father disregards me.
I'm the housemate.
I'm the failure
Part of me screams:
I give up.
Yet, the other part knows everyth